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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or StaffVideo-Cellar Date: Feb 26, 2010 6:44am
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: I love seeing the Movie Serials - Plus a Question

Yes the Batman, Superman, Flying Disc Man serials are Copyright.

As are:
Flash Gordon
Manhunt of Mystery Island
The Phantom

Captain America and Captian Marvel were not properly renewed, but original works (characters and situations inspired by the books) that they are based on are still copyright and trademarked.

This post was modified by Video-Cellar on 2010-02-26 14:44:53

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Poster: elmagno Date: Feb 26, 2010 7:15am
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: Plus a Question and I Press Delete

Do you really want to delete these 50 items? my computer asks. It's a long story, I say.

Thanks for the heads up on these. I've had those Flash Gordons for years. But there's still plenty of good PD stuff to be had and enjoy. So no tears. Bwahhhh!

Your contributions to IA are highly valuable. Thanks again.

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Poster: anh Mike Date: Feb 27, 2010 8:22am
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: I love seeing the Movie Serials - Plus a Question

All Golden age Captian marvel comics (fawcett publication) are in the public domain. (there is free website to down load those books) This would include his origin story. Therefore if VC means that the serial stories are sourced from copyrighted comic stories then I can find no evidence of support. the Captian America serial story is unique to the serial and not from a comic. It appently was intended for Mr. Scalet. The CA figure is more closer to Mr. Scarlet than the CA comics.

Thanks for all ur input VC.

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or StaffVideo-Cellar Date: Feb 27, 2010 7:25pm
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: I love seeing the Movie Serials - Plus a Question

Sorry about the misinformataion before, but I looked in the wrong renewal register. I forgot to check the "anniversary year window" for the serial. "The Adventures of Captain Marvel" serial was completely and properly renewed in the second half of 1968. The catalogue of renewals entry is attached below.

On the Fawcett books.
Most Fawcett Captain Marvel books were renewed. They were renewed as "periodicals". Periodical renewals have not been widely available online leaving many thinking copyright works were PD, such as the Shadow and Doc Savage situation a few years ago. It requires a fair bit of additional searching around to find the copyright office listings for periodical renewals from the early 20s to early 40s.

The Fawcet books that were renewed
Flash Comics "Captain Thunder": issues renewed from January 1940 (v. 1 no. 1)
Whiz Comics: issues renewed from March 1940 (v. 1 no. 3)
Captain Marvel Adventures: issues renewed from Aug.-Sep. 1941 (v. 1 no. 3)
America's Best Comics: issues renewed from September 1942 (v. 1 no. 2)
Marvel Family Comics: issues renewed from December 1945 (v. 1 no. 1)
Captain Marvel Story Book: issues renewed from Summer 1946 (v. 1 no. 1)
Captain Marvel, Jr.: issues renewed from April 1945 (v. 5 no. 29)

All DC books that needed renewal were renewed.

It is possible that two first year books were not renewed (Captain Marvel Adventures 1 & 2) but these are subsequent to the character's creation. The small number of Superman strips and cartoons that are PD do not effect the copyright of the character.

Captain Marvel was also the subject of decade-long litigation in the 40s - 50s that alleged infringement in the copyright of Superman. DC Comics prevailed after appeal. From 1953 onwards all intellectual property in Fawcett and related Captain Marvel products became tied in to the Superman intellectual property as unauthorised derivative works. The finding was that:
"An author does not forfeit his original copyright to a piece of intellectual property if his work is contracted to another who fails to properly copyright works which incorporate the original property. Fawcett Publications' Captain Marvel comic strips were proven to have plagiarized those of National Comics' Superman character."

The only currently legally available version of the Captain Marvel serial is the licensed VCI edition.

This post was modified by Video-Cellar on 2010-02-28 03:25:17

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Poster: elmagno Date: Feb 27, 2010 4:48pm
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: No Question About It

As a teacher and researchist (Languages and Literature), I am very appreciative of these productive efforts; as a novice PD student, I also warmly feel the pleasure of being educated. Nice work.

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Poster: bearcorg Date: Jun 3, 2010 4:06pm
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: I love seeing the Movie Serials - Plus a Question

if the first and third of the
flash gordon serials are in copyright under what assumption have the multiple dvd releases by mill creek, st clair vision, passport etc been made, these companies are too thorough to have simply overlooked c-right status